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Important information
on the real estate market and different areas in Panama
If you are considering
coming to Panama to look around and get the feel of the place, learn a bit
about the local culture and the real estate as well as to scout the country
out just to see if it really is the place for you to move then you should
seriously consider taking one of our real estate and cultural
familiarization tours. Panama is not for everyone and one has to learn to
live here just as they would in any other new society they would move to as
well. This really is a great place to live or retire but you need to know a
few inside secrets to help you get off on the fast track and save yourself
some serious time and headaches. The most important free information we
could give you would be to take one of our tours. You'll be given
information that no other so called experts on Panama will give you. If
you are looking for a little free information and would like to meet with us
for a few minutes at no cost then contact us and one of our agents will meet
with you and explain how we work. We will save you money and many headaches
that are common to many people looking for property here in Panama. Our real
estate and cultural tour will cost you less than hiring your own bilingual
driver everyday and they will not give you the info we will. If you would
rather rent your own car and try driving around a country that has no good
maps and where very few know how to give directions (especially in English)
and every direction is "Over there." You should consider our tour because
getting around in this place will be difficult indeed and it doesn't matter
where you have lived or worked in the world.
If you are the editor of a major publication or you’re “The Real Estate
Oracle” and have and endless pool of serious buyers
and are willing to give
us a plug
then let’s talk.......
because nothing is for really free right?
The real estate market
in Panama is
very funny and almost comical at times. Many owners of property especially
the ones living in the city that own apartments really believe their
property is worth what some untrained appraiser told
them. They are hoping against hope that some stupid foreigner will fly in
and save them at the last minute. The problem with this is that most of them
over paid for their apartments because there was a building boom that
started about 20 years ago and has lasted so far right up to the date of me
writing this. Why? Well to start with the U.S. presence here in Panama and a
need for more housing for U.S. government employees and their families was
the start of it. A U.S. government employee paid about twice as much for
rent as a local did. People were buying five apartments and renting them to
U.S. Government employees and paying their mortgages off in a little as five
years. They lived off this income. Everyone jumped on the bandwagon,
builders, banks etc all sucking the good old USA for as much as they could.
This created a false value for the real estate in Panama. Values were based
on how much income they would bring in and not the true resale value. This
was nothing less than welfare from the U.S. to the property owners that were
renting to U.S.
government employees who lived in Panama City and near the military bases.
In 1998 and 1999 there
was a rush by many locals to buy up properties in the canal zone as they
were slowly reverted to Panama. Why? So they could throw some cheap paint on
them and rent them back to the U.S. government employees they were sure
would be here until the end of time. Dreaming about doubling up on their
mortgage payments and crying about spending $20.00 on a plumber to fix a
leaky faucet in the property they rented to someone who pays twice as much
as the locals do. About 50% of the properties in the old canal zone area
are holding their values even if most (not all) of the people who purchased
these reverted properties got completely ripped off (got the big *YUCA) by
the incompetent office called A.R.I. (a local government agency appointed
to auction off the properties in the former canal zone areas). The other
50% that purchased got a fair deal. These are the ones I speak of which are
holding their value and have actually increased in value because with the
money the owners saved most put it back into the property so it would now
sell for a reasonable market price. The 50% who over paid and then invested
more into their properties will not have as much luck and for many of them
luck is what they will need to sell these properties for the ridicules
prices they are asking. Most of these people that paid too much do not live
in reality anyway and if one of you happens to be reading this then "yes",
I'm talking about "you", as your stupidity and greed got you to this point so
live with it and suffer...... some more...
Well in the year 2000
the champagne ran out of bubbles and left some of the locals with a sour
taste in their mouth and a migraine that morphine could not help as the USA
announced it could not work out a new deal with the Panamanian government to
keep military bases in Panama along with the thousands of high paying jobs
it provided to the locals. Many thinking that the US was not really going to
leave Panama and many still have this "I'll hold on to
my property until I find the right buyer attitude". The kind of attitude
that means their property has been on the market for almost three years now
and will probably be willed to their children after they themselves die of old age. Maybe
they are right though as after 20 years of trying to sell, it then becomes an
antique and goes up in value right?
The fact is there must
be a middle ground as in most accomplished negotiations there is. This does
not mean that a client from outside of Panama comes here and offers someone
half of their asking price either. For example we had a couple
from Ohio here a few months ago and every property that was shown to them
the lady kept crying about "Well in Ohio I can get this and this and that
for this price!" If that is the case go back to Ohio and buy two of
everything please. I've been to
Ohio
and although it does have it's appeal for some it does not have climate as
nice as here. It does not have wild bananas, papayas, toucans, parrots, a
Caribbean sea
and pacific ocean an hour apart not to count beautiful mountains, maid's
service for $8.00 a day and yellow fin tuna filets for $1.50/lb at the local
fish market. You can get some good deals here but that all depends on what
you think a good deal is. This crap some people are putting on the internet
about Panama is a land "Gold Mine" and that you can buy a piece of Caribbean
beach front property for $1000-$2000/acre is just B.S. coming from a
"Bullchitero" (local word for Bullshitter pronounced (Bull che terro). And
Bocas del Toro is full of "Bullchiteros" some of them gringos who were ask
to leave Costa Rica after they were caught selling land to other gringos. I'm
talking about land they did not really own or have the right to sell them.
In other words "Con-Artist", "Scam Artist" etc. The bad part is that they
left Costa Rica
and moved to "Bocas del Toro". Here is some more free advise and
we don't give much "FREE Advise" because it costs us time and money to obtain it
ourselves. If someone is pushing a project on you and there is a lot of "hype",
free alcohol, the word "Deal" comes up more than 3 times in 10 seconds, you
see many non Panamanians being pitched about the "DEAL" then bend over and
get ready for the "YUCA" because that's probably the only thing you will get
for your money. If it were such a "DEAL" then why oh why haven't the locals
jumped all over it? Oh! so you think just because they live here they have
no interest in owning a piece of Caribbean beach front for $1k-2k / acre as
well? Nonsense! They would love to buy at those prices if it were available
and if it were a legitimate deal they would have already purchased there and
would have known about it way before you did or even the crooked guy pushing
it. The only way to buy
Caribbean or Pacific property at really low prices is to buy it in
bulk (50 acres or more) and to get someone who is lucky enough to have it or
know someone who is dumb enough to sell it at that price. We have watched
over 10 people purchase these "Deals of a lifetime" only to find out a year
or so later that what they got was some piece of paper that could not even
be used in an "out house". Why did they get screwed? Greed! Yes greed is the
weakness of many of these victims who cry about having to pay someone to do
a background and title search on the property. They don't want to spend the
few hundred dollars it takes to verify the paperwork so they end up losing
thousands and crying about how they got ripped off! We don't feel sorry for
them as they were begging for some "YUCA" and someone came to the rescue and
gave it to them.....hard and fast....
A FEW WORDS ABOUT "THE YUCA"
*YUCA (aka CASSAVA)
- A long fibrous tropical root used as a food staple, in soups, stews,
fried, mashed, making tapioca or in
more recent times what a crooked person or dishonest business, will give a
unprotected or misinformed buyer of anything in Panama.
This is a Panamanian slang about what happens when you get screwed on a
deal.
The YUCA is not complimentary or limited to Panama. About 99% of all people
who "got the YUCA" paid or invested something in advance for it. Take for
example the Enron employees and investors". This is also an example of the
cross border capabilities of the "YUCA" as I mentioned not just limited to
Panama.
The "YUCA" is more of an emotional act than a physical one (unless
requested). The individual or group that receives the "YUCA" normally feels
a sense of being taken advantage of, a loss of power (and money) along with
the feelings of being embarrassed of their own ignorance. There are also
local words and phrases used for the act of giving or receiving the "YUCA"
i.e.,
"Me enyucaron" - What someone says when they get "The YUCA"
"No enyucarme" - What you should say to the person you believe is getting
ready to give you "The YUCA" This is normally said as a preventive measure
but is not guaranteed to save you from getting "The YUCA"
The word "Juega Vivo" is what you call the person who is trying to give you
"THE YUCA". It means literally the "Game of Live" or a "Lively Gamer"
or in the USA a "Player". In
Panama people sometimes actually admire people who give others "THE YUCA".
They consider it talent at the game of life. The term "Gringo Vivo" is
normally used by the locals to describe a North American who is smart enough
not to get "THE YUCA" because they are "Good at the game"!
"Gringo Juega Vivo" is the term used by the locals to describe a back
stabbing dishonest North American who comes to Panama thinking that everyone
here is stupid and can be taken advantage of. Big mistake indeed!
Realtors and Listings in
Panama
Real
Estate Listings in Panama “DO NOT EXIST” as you think they might. In the
U.S. for example a realtor or “Listing Agent” will get the a property
exclusively listed on a MLS (Real estate Multiple Listing Service) and
because there is NO MLS in Panama to date there must be a reason for this,
right? Well to start with in a MLS system there has to be some type of
trust and respect across the board. The more properties a realtor can get on
a MLS the more other realtors will see them and help the “Listing Agent”
sell those properties. It makes the owner’s happy as they see movement on
their property and they know there are numerous realtors out there trying to
sell their property for them with one realtor, “The Listing Agent” in charge
of it and making sure that all other realtors follow the rules and ethics of
selling their property. It’s a very effective system as all realtors evolved
in the transaction split commissions making a little but helping them and
owners sell more properties so at the end of the month they may have sold
3-4 properties versus maybe one if this system did not exist.
Reasons a MLS has not existed in Panama are:
1-
Many owners
do not trust the realtors.
2-
Many
realtors do not trust the owners.
3-
Many
developers do not trust the realtors
4-
Many
realtors do not trust the developers
5-
Many
realtors do not trust other realtors
6-
Frankly, not
many people in this business trusts anyone!
There must be a reason for all this distrust right? Right!
One word can explain it all “Greed”; yes greed is the reason for all this.
The
realtors want to make as much as possible without having to split their
commissions. The problem with this is that when an owner gives them
exclusivity they try to sell it themselves to keep all of the commission.
Some realtors don't understand that it is better to make 2.5% four times a month than 5% once a month. So since the property owners
see no movement of potential clients coming to look at their properties they
get angry and then the next realtor that comes along and ask for exclusivity
gets a quick “NO” answer from the property owner. That does not mean that
exclusive agreements do not exist because they do. Exclusive agreements are
given to open minded hard working realtors that move a lot of properties and
get other realtors to help them as well. There are some very good realtors
in Panama that will move heaven and earth to sell a property for a owner and
and extremely informed about ROI, financing and long term value. Those are the type of realtors we have working with us.
This looks like it is all the realtors’ faults eh? Not exactly true. A
realtor may ask for exclusivity here, get it and do the right thing by
putting the property out on the market, spending their money and time to
promote and hopefully sell the property for the owner. The problems start
when other realtors hear the property is on the market in which they would
have never known the property was for sale to start with without the
exclusive realtor promoting it through local channels or the media. When
they find out the property is for sale they quickly try to find out who the
owner is and take a client directly to them. They try and cut a side deal
with the owner for a lower commission fee and many of the greedy owners will
do this and thus sticking it to their exclusive realtor and then trying to
weasel out of a deal they signed with them. So the exclusive realtor did all
the marketing and all they got for it was “The YUCA”. Many property owners
here are just as greedy and dishonest as many of the realtors.
I’ll give you an example.
I have a realtor friend a few months ago who had a client from Florida. This
client was looking for a nice apartment with a view of the ocean. She had
another realtor friend of hers who said he had a beautiful apartment in
Punta Paitilla (an area of the city) and that he had an exclusive listing
agreement with the owner. Her client from Florida looked at the property and
agreed to purchase. The purchase went through and all were happy. The lead
realtor (her friend) was supposed to collect the commission check from the
owner and they were to split the commission. A month goes by and the owner
of the property had not paid and appeared to be stalling on the payment. She
kept calling her friend the other realtor and asking him what was going on.
Her realtor friend was avoiding her and not returning her calls just like
the owner. She became suspicious and had another friend of hers run a
background check on the owner. You’re going to laugh in a couple of seconds.
The
owner of the property was a career criminal with a background in blackmail,
extortion, drug money laundering, racketeering, robbery, embezzlement, fraud
and even implicated in murder. He had been imprisoned in Europe and the USA.
The funniest thing she found out was that he was the “Bagman” who delivered
the initial $50,000 payoff to buy the silence of the Watergate burglars.
Only in Panama people will you find “Old Pirates” like this. This guy was
never going to pay her because he had never paid anyone in his life. At 68
years old how were you ever going to teach a guy like this to be honest….?
Isn’t going to happen is it people? The really sad part was that her friend
who knew the owner got his commission check. Basically her friend and the
owner conspired to not pay her. She went to the real estate commission board
and filed a complaint. After one of the board members questioned her friend
the realtor why he had not paid her commission yet his response was “Oh, she
forgot to go by and pick up her check”. Now this was her friend that she had
know for years sitting here lying his ass off to the board and saying she
was to blame for not picking up her check. When asked why didn’t he go and
get it for her to remedy the situation he replied “I’ve been busy”. Needless
to say she has not been paid yet and he hasn’t returned her phone calls
either. The board is “still investigating” meaning they are not going to do
a darn thing.
So that is the main reasons there is no MLS in Panama. Because a
MLS has a lot of trust built into it and in a country where you can trust
“Very few” it would be very hard to do but we are going to take a swing at
it and we’ll let you know in a few months how we’re doing.
If
you’re a realtor or property owner here who is honest and can abide by our
terms and regulations after you meet our requirements then we would be
interested in speaking with you so shoot us an email at:
PanamaMLS@yahoo.com.
By
the way if you want to read more about this dirt bag “Juega Vivo” Gilbert J. Straub
then go to Google.com and type in the following: Panama: Gilbert Straub and
read a very interesting congressional document about the hand over of the
Canal. Go to the bottom of page 22 and read the last paragraph where it
mentions Gilbert Straub by name.
Attn: This scumbag hangs out in various restaurants in Panama City looking
for victims to rip off. The above mentioned by name “Juega
Vivo Snake” hangs out at “Friday’s Bar & Restaurant” in the Marbella
area of Panama City or
How to avoid becoming known as a
"Juega Vivo"
Panama is a small
country of about 2.8 million people equally divided in population between
men and women. There is NOT a 2 or 3 to 1 ratio of women to men like many
think. Most of the population is also related not to mention that Panama
City is just a "large town" and not much happens around Panama without
someone finding out about it down the road. Gossiping is the national sport
and pass-time here. If you think you can go to Panama and "use" the
realtors to show you around the country for free then you are in for a
surprise. Some people think they can get a free vacation by having a realtor
drive and fly them all over the country at the realtor's expense so they can
then just go behind the realtor's back and try to cut a deal with the owner
and cut the realtor out of their hard earned commissions which are lower
than commissions in North America anyway. You won't find a realtor in the USA,
Canada or Mexico that will take you all around those countries "Looking" at
their own expense so why would you expect them to do it in Panama? Do you
know a realtor in the USA or Canada that will drive you 2-3 hours one way to
another state just to here you say, "I am just looking around and trying too
see if I want to live here or not". If you want to do that then at least
tell the realtor in advance and offer to pay them for their gas and time.
Many realtors will do thin Panama if you are honest with them and at least
respect their time by giving them what a taxi driver would charged
you. If you want a quick name for yourself in Panama then you just abuse a
realtor's time here and you will see
very quickly that many of the realtors are starting to work together
especially after we started writing about this. If they don't work together
then they are at least talking with each other about the problems they are
having with foreigners trying to abuse them and their services. I'll give
you an example:
A couple of months ago
a little Italian lady from the USA (Florida) came to Panama "looking" for a
new place to live. She came with her American boyfriend and quickly
contacted a realtor here to see some properties. She bragged about being the
number one condo salesperson in Hollywood, California for twenty years.
Every property she was shown did not meet her "personal requirements"
meaning that she liked many of the properties she was shown but did not like
any of the kitchens, bathrooms or bedrooms. She said she loved they
apartments but that she would have to spend fifty to ninety thousand dollars
on each apartment to turn it into something "she could live in". Said that
the owner would have to drop the price at least fifty to ninety thousand so
that she could do her "personal renovations". She said this about EVERY
property she liked! After the 5th property she was shown and she said the
same thing she got a quick response from the realtor telling her that she
was a waste of their time and that she was not being realistic by asking the
seller to "Pay" for her personal renovations by asking for such huge
discounts that every seller quickly replied to her request as "absurd and an
insult to them". The realtor left her and her boyfriend standing beside the
road with a curious look on their face. The kind of look that says, "Gee we
got made and these people are not as dumb we thought". Within 24 hours no
less than 20 other realtors were informed about this lady, her boyfriend and
their "game" they were playing. She called us looking for a realtor to help
her and we quickly informed her about the story going around about her and
how she should learn how to "behave herself" here in Panama. It took us two
weeks before we found someone willing to show her properties after she
apologized to the realtors and sellers she had been working with previously.
This also happened to a Canadian guy that came here and went around with a
realtor that showed him a property. He went behind the realtors back and cut
the realtor out of the deal but did not know that the realtor came from a
very powerful "old money family" with many family members who were very high
ranking officials in the government. He had to pay the realtors commission
and legal fees as well by trying to be a "Canadian Juega Vivo". Remember
that if you are not from Panama then you are an "Outsider". The Moral of the
story: You should learn the customs here and make friends with the locals.
Don't come to Panama and "Abuse, insult or try and take advantage of the
people here" or you will see how quickly you get "ganged up on by the
locals" and will be tagged as a "Juega Vivo" yourself.
A FEW WORDS ABOUT BOCAS DEL TORO
Is
noni really a miracle cure? snake oil? or just a quick economic cure
for the snake that sold you the untitled land and convinced you they can
grow noni and teak on it and make you some money.
Will teak grow underwater? According to the folks that are telling you to
grow it on the Caribbean side of Panama it will. Teak needs no more than
2500 mm (98.42 inches) of water a year and needs a few months of dry weather for the wood
to seal. In Bocas del Toro it rains an average of 4500mm (177 inches) a year. Too much
rain for teak and the only thing you can really grow there that you could
make some money on would be bananas, coconuts, mold, mildew, moss and
concentrated cockroach extract; all of which are probably more healthy for
you than Noni juice.
If you are going to buy anything in Panama especially in Bocas del Toro you
had better do your homework. Bocas is full of pirates and some are even
Expats with criminal backgrounds. I'm not talking about tax evaders either.
I'm talking about people who were run out of other countries because they
sold land they were not authorized to sell or didn't even own.
Some of them have big projects in Bocas and appear to be doing quiet well.
The question is where will they be five years from now when all those people
who are waiting on those titles they were promised find out they got
stiffed. I'll give you a hint. "They won't be in Panama" because most of
them have their bags packed ready to move out at a moments notice NOW!
Contact us now at:
PanamaMLS@yahoo.com for more
information about our services that can prevent you from getting "THE YUCA". |